this video almost made me cry, and I come directly from the Irish-Catholic real men don't cry belief system. this isn't some abstract philosophical debate, its people's lives.
Iris
· 10 months ago
/signed
Thanks for posting this.
Klumsi
· 10 months ago
Signed. I will share with my friends and family. Thanks for posting.
JoeW
· 10 months ago
Ken frackin' Starr....!
Signed, of course, and I'll forward it to everyone I know. Maybe it'll make some of my more backward acquaintances think twice.
Dani
· 10 months ago
Can't sign for being outside the US, but... lovely vid. Posted on twitter and FriendFeed.
Karnatos
· 10 months ago
Ditto with Dani here, me being in Canada... but we have similar problems here.
Thoughts are with and behind you on this one.
Kanon_fan82
· 10 months ago
*Sigh* Felicia, you're smart, good looking and a liberal.....be still my heart :D
Anyway.....I can't sign here in Canada but my thoughts/prayers are with you+those same-sex couples whom this legislation seeks to harm......
This is an important issue not only from the legal standpoint....but also an ethical one....if we are willing to let heterosexual couples marry regardless of whether the relationship is healthy or not, we should at least extend the same rights to homosexual couples....Passing this bill would lead only to broken hearts and families.
Old Knudsen
· 10 months ago
It makes me sick that people force their own agendas onto others all the while not bothering about the child who is being raised in a loving , stable partnership.
Urui
· 10 months ago
I'm in Spain and I haven't problems in signing. Maybe my postal code (47012) is the same of any US postal code.
the best of lucks for that 18000 marriages.
Emily
· 10 months ago
Signed :) How can anyone say that loving anyone (especially now with what is going on in our world) is wrong is beyond me and it is really something worth fighting for.
<3 will prevail.
Kiala
· 10 months ago
Signed!
We live in the Castro about fifteen feet from Harvey Milk's former doorstep. This gives me SO MUCH Gay Cred. Yay Gays!
(Also, I forwarded it to the Portland Mercury)
NeuroMan42
· 10 months ago
Saw this a while back and totally loved it.
Soma+
· 10 months ago
...
this vid would make Helmholtz Watson proud..
emotioneering is shrug-worthy, imo..
none-the-less, does this vid serve to convince the afro-amer/hispanic/minority/other-religious-right of cali? [that which is to blame for the movement of the bill... ]
If marriage is simply left to legislation, and disambiguous from any psychological state of "love".. no amount of signing will create enough voters to overturn the will of the voting-majority...
this video is making its rounds in the cirlce of the one-thirds..
its the other "two-thirds" that requires convincing..
"right" or "wrong" this is the will of the people..
so go out there and out-vote that majority [mormons/catholics/orthodox ... ]
[/shrug]
JoeW
· 10 months ago
@Soma--It wasn't "two-thirds" who voted for Prop 8....it was about 52%, after millions and millions of out-of-state dollars were pumped into the race by the Mormon Church, the religious-right Focus on Family, and others.
And anyway, you change people's minds one at a time, and not all changes happen overnight. Turns out that people who have at least one gay or lesbian family member/acquaintaince are a whole lot open-minded than those who don't. (Surprise!) Maybe this video, and the effort behind it, will make some people feel that they've made a new acquaintance. It certainly can't hurt.
Soma+
· 10 months ago
JoeW,
in regards to the percentages..
very true. i should have referred to the voting process in general.
prop8 should never have existed... and so, i would rather see a document about how it is either illegal or unjust versus a video, that was made to appeal to my emotions. how you feel and your "love" for someone, in my experience, does not hold much weight in court. it needs to be backed with something correlating to a previous case of "rights" and or a similar case with that precedent.
imo, this was backlash for a state court trying to legislate "from the bench" on an issue that was regulated, federally. which brought the prop.. and the voting and the money trail..
as for "open-minded-ness".. one need only look to the mormon-offshoot polygamist sects to find that that statement is entirely semantics. [surprise!]
i need proof.. in the constitution or some other document that this country is based that prop8 is "unjust". otherwise it stands, right or wrong.
so as to say, it pisses me off when i see a video that just is an emotional-ploy. yes, that video pissed me off.. i fail to see how this is any different than what helmholtz watson performed in aldous huxley's brave new world?
this is wrong cus it makes ppl feel bad?
i would like to think i was true neutral previously.. but this vid has swayed me towards the pro-side. so in my case, it has "hurt".. but i no longer live in cali, so my opinion is moot..
if this is how voters are swayed.. for either side.. i hope both camps get everything they want.. and nothing they need.
Roger de Flor
· 10 months ago
@Urui, wait a minute. 47012? That´s Fachadolid, right? You´re supporting the gay movement, from Fachadolid? Wow, now I´ve seen everything XD. (Sorry for non-spanish don´t understanding what I´m talking about, I apologize)
Now, about the video. I´ve been reading about the propositions 8, 6 and Harvey Milk lately and it amuse me that, in some ways, the gay community in the US is worse now than in the late 70s. So, keep fighting people. And I mean all of you. If you really think this is serious (as it is) speak about it to other people, make them sign. It´s not that hard and, sometimes, it works.
Urui
· 10 months ago
Roger, it's said Valladolid. Let's put black legends, topics and local quarrels aside, please. Btw, 47012 is Pajarillos (Little Birds or Sparrows in English) neighborhood, we aren't the archetypal Valladolid inhabitants but we are Valladolid inhabitants too.
Of course I'm supporting the gay movement (and so do my friends and family, there is a lot of people here). There's no place for second-class citizens in any democracy now. If they have the same duties as other, they must have the same rights too.
Sven
· 10 months ago
Signed; to a brighter future.
Great video. I was truly disappointed in my fellow Californians when prop 8 passed. I didn't think stuff like this could happen anymore.
Quickhorn
· 10 months ago
@Sven,
It's not nearly to that point yet. But it's good to see such amazing people helping forward the movement. Thank you Felicia for posting this and bringing attention to it.
Leradny
· 10 months ago
Being Californian, liberal, and against Prop 8 from the start (how exactly did that pass?!) I signed and told all my friends on Facebook to sign, too. Also, I have to give you kudos for bringing this to my attention at all, since it's hard for me to come across petitions for gay rights in my usual random Googling.
Sus
· 10 months ago
Signed. From the UK without problems.
Thanks for posting this, Felicia. Fingers very firmly crossed, California.
Roger de Flor
· 10 months ago
@Urui I Know, I know it´s Valladolid. I was just kidding. Sorry if I offended you.
Anyway, I´m from Valencia. You can make fun of that if you want. In retaliation I mean.
Urui
· 10 months ago
I was in Valencia once, nice place and nice people.
John
· 10 months ago
This part isn't really my business, but has anybody out there considered an end-run around the issue? My understanding is that the issues involved in marriage (other than the TERM marriage, which shouldn't really ever need anybody's permission) are insurance benefits and status as a family member for things like hospital visits.
Rather than try to sway a bunch of politicians who have consistently made it abundantly clear that they don't care about any of us/you, maybe it'd be smarter to pressure specific insurance providers to accept domestic partnerships, and have a sympathetic lawyer draw up the proper paperwork to make someone functionally (if not literally) Next of Kin.
Married, not married...who cares about what you call it? It's really just an excuse for the government to charge you for a license anyway.
Or am I totally missing the point?
(Unrelated: On this form, it appears that "URL" is an abbreviation for "Universal Resource Identifier." I know the terms are roughly interchangeable, but I found it amusing. Like all those physics acronyms that don't match the phrase because it's been translated into French.)
Maxwell
· 10 months ago
FELICIA I LOVE YOU.
Thank you for supporting the fight for all rights in the State of California, and in the United States.
I am so delighted that you posted this. It just made my day.
You are a DOLL!
Grey Kitten
· 10 months ago
Felicia,
Thank you for posting this.
My husband and I were married on October 30th, rushing to the courthouse just in case Prop 8 took the right away from us. Now that we've said our vows to one another, nothing can un-marry us. All they can do is take away the legal recognition and equality under the law.
Election night was hard. The rings we had ordered weeks earlier finally arrived that day. We watched as history was made as Obama was elected president, but couldn't fully enjoy it as we also watched the equal rights we had momentarily shared be stripped away as discrimination was written into the state constitution by a simple majority.
How tragic.
I've loved watching The Guild. You've made such wonderful characters come to life that your fans can feel like these people are their gaming friends. I know that's just the illusion of great writing, acting, and direction - and congratulate you on pulling that off.
It really means a lot to me to know that we have your support in this fight for equality. It's like knowing that my guild mates have my back as we go up against an epic boss.
Thanks again! Grey Kitten
QingTing
· 10 months ago
How anyone can criminalize love in a world full of hate is beyond me.
Matias
· 10 months ago
Im from Argentina! Can I sign? thanks for posting this. U rock, Felicia!!
River
· 10 months ago
Signed!
Video broke my heart :( I don't understand why some people are so against marriage between two people who clearly love each other. It will always boggle my mind.
Meredith
· 9 months ago
Thanks for posting this Miss Felicia. You're sweet ^_^
antraxa
· 8 months ago
I love that they used Fidelity by Regina Spektor. One of my favourite songs ever. I signed the letter from Spain because even though we have that issue solved over here, I thought I'd give you a hand :) We shouldn't stop fighting until every country comes to its senses.
asphyxiette
· 8 months ago
I'm a little late, but I had to comment. I actually started to tear up when they showed the two couples that had been together over 40 years. That kind love love and dedication is the most beautiful thing in this world, and I can't understand how anyone could say it's wrong.
My mother raised me to believe in love and beauty in every form, and to respect others, even when they tell me I'm going to hell because of my beliefs and orientation. It's hard to smile and brush off their comments but I do, because they have the right to live in whatever way they choose. It's mind-boggling that they try to take that same right away from their fellow human beings.
Thank you for sharing this video, Felicia. I wish you love and happiness.
Brian Real
· 8 months ago
Wait...Ken Star!? That guy!? I'm from the DC area and I thought I remembered seeing him forcibly run out of here back in '98!
Brian Real
· 8 months ago
And, wait...Independent Counsels are supposed to be non-partisan / not have a party based agenda in their actions. However, looking at Wikipedia, and Ken Starr went from the anti-Clinton stuff to working for Blackwater to trying to uphold Prop 8. Add that he ASKED to be assigned to the Clinton thing and it's pretty clear that this guy has a distinct political agenda.
All Comments
Thanks for posting this.
I will share with my friends and family. Thanks for posting.
Signed, of course, and I'll forward it to everyone I know. Maybe it'll make some of my more backward acquaintances think twice.
Posted on twitter and FriendFeed.
Thoughts are with and behind you on this one.
Anyway.....I can't sign here in Canada but my thoughts/prayers are with you+those same-sex couples whom this legislation seeks to harm......
This is an important issue not only from the legal standpoint....but also an ethical one....if we are willing to let heterosexual couples marry regardless of whether the relationship is healthy or not, we should at least extend the same rights to homosexual couples....Passing this bill would lead only to broken hearts and families.
the best of lucks for that 18000 marriages.
How can anyone say that loving anyone (especially now with what is going on in our world) is wrong is beyond me and it is really something worth fighting for.
<3 will prevail.
We live in the Castro about fifteen feet from Harvey Milk's former doorstep. This gives me SO MUCH Gay Cred. Yay Gays!
(Also, I forwarded it to the Portland Mercury)
this vid would make Helmholtz Watson proud..
emotioneering is shrug-worthy, imo..
none-the-less, does this vid serve to convince the
afro-amer/hispanic/minority/other-religious-right of cali?
[that which is to blame for the movement of the bill... ]
If marriage is simply left to legislation, and disambiguous from
any psychological state of "love".. no amount of signing will
create enough voters to overturn the will of the voting-majority...
this video is making its rounds in the cirlce of the one-thirds..
its the other "two-thirds" that requires convincing..
"right" or "wrong" this is the will of the people..
so go out there and out-vote that majority [mormons/catholics/orthodox ... ]
[/shrug]
And anyway, you change people's minds one at a time, and not all changes happen overnight. Turns out that people who have at least one gay or lesbian family member/acquaintaince are a whole lot open-minded than those who don't. (Surprise!) Maybe this video, and the effort behind it, will make some people feel that they've made a new acquaintance. It certainly can't hurt.
in regards to the percentages..
very true. i should have referred to the voting process in general.
prop8 should never have existed... and so, i would rather see a
document about how it is either illegal or unjust versus a video,
that was made to appeal to my emotions. how you feel and your
"love" for someone, in my experience, does not hold much weight
in court. it needs to be backed with something correlating to a
previous case of "rights" and or a similar case with that precedent.
imo, this was backlash for a state court trying to legislate "from the bench"
on an issue that was regulated, federally. which brought the prop.. and the voting
and the money trail..
as for "open-minded-ness".. one need only look to the mormon-offshoot
polygamist sects to find that that statement is entirely semantics. [surprise!]
i need proof.. in the constitution or some other document that this country
is based that prop8 is "unjust". otherwise it stands, right or wrong.
so as to say, it pisses me off when i see a video that just is an emotional-ploy.
yes, that video pissed me off.. i fail to see how this is any different than what
helmholtz watson performed in aldous huxley's brave new world?
this is wrong cus it makes ppl feel bad?
i would like to think i was true neutral previously.. but this vid has
swayed me towards the pro-side. so in my case, it has "hurt"..
but i no longer live in cali, so my opinion is moot..
if this is how voters are swayed.. for either side.. i hope both camps get
everything they want.. and nothing they need.
You´re supporting the gay movement, from Fachadolid? Wow, now I´ve seen everything XD.
(Sorry for non-spanish don´t understanding what I´m talking about, I apologize)
Now, about the video. I´ve been reading about the propositions 8, 6 and Harvey Milk lately and it amuse me that, in some ways, the gay community in the US is worse now than in the late 70s.
So, keep fighting people. And I mean all of you. If you really think this is serious (as it is) speak about it to other people, make them sign. It´s not that hard and, sometimes, it works.
Of course I'm supporting the gay movement (and so do my friends and family, there is a lot of people here). There's no place for second-class citizens in any democracy now. If they have the same duties as other, they must have the same rights too.
Great video. I was truly disappointed in my fellow Californians when prop 8 passed. I didn't think stuff like this could happen anymore.
It's not nearly to that point yet. But it's good to see such amazing people helping forward the movement. Thank you Felicia for posting this and bringing attention to it.
Thanks for posting this, Felicia. Fingers very firmly crossed, California.
Anyway, I´m from Valencia. You can make fun of that if you want. In retaliation I mean.
Rather than try to sway a bunch of politicians who have consistently made it abundantly clear that they don't care about any of us/you, maybe it'd be smarter to pressure specific insurance providers to accept domestic partnerships, and have a sympathetic lawyer draw up the proper paperwork to make someone functionally (if not literally) Next of Kin.
Married, not married...who cares about what you call it? It's really just an excuse for the government to charge you for a license anyway.
Or am I totally missing the point?
(Unrelated: On this form, it appears that "URL" is an abbreviation for "Universal Resource Identifier." I know the terms are roughly interchangeable, but I found it amusing. Like all those physics acronyms that don't match the phrase because it's been translated into French.)
Thank you for supporting the fight for all rights in the State of California, and in the United States.
I am so delighted that you posted this. It just made my day.
You are a DOLL!
Thank you for posting this.
My husband and I were married on October 30th, rushing to the courthouse just in case Prop 8 took the right away from us. Now that we've said our vows to one another, nothing can un-marry us. All they can do is take away the legal recognition and equality under the law.
Election night was hard. The rings we had ordered weeks earlier finally arrived that day. We watched as history was made as Obama was elected president, but couldn't fully enjoy it as we also watched the equal rights we had momentarily shared be stripped away as discrimination was written into the state constitution by a simple majority.
How tragic.
I've loved watching The Guild. You've made such wonderful characters come to life that your fans can feel like these people are their gaming friends. I know that's just the illusion of great writing, acting, and direction - and congratulate you on pulling that off.
It really means a lot to me to know that we have your support in this fight for equality. It's like knowing that my guild mates have my back as we go up against an epic boss.
Thanks again!
Grey Kitten
Video broke my heart :( I don't understand why some people are so against marriage between two people who clearly love each other. It will always boggle my mind.
My mother raised me to believe in love and beauty in every form, and to respect others, even when they tell me I'm going to hell because of my beliefs and orientation. It's hard to smile and brush off their comments but I do, because they have the right to live in whatever way they choose. It's mind-boggling that they try to take that same right away from their fellow human beings.
Thank you for sharing this video, Felicia. I wish you love and happiness.